Mac vs. PC. A debate that live on for years to come, but there is really only one that is best for photographers. Read on to find out which.
Oct 2015 Update: Be sure to check out the Windows Photo Editing SUPER Guide article for updated recommendations on the best low price options for PCs that will run Photoshop and Lightroom well – including what hardware is worth spending more money on and what is not!
It depends! I hate it when photographers do that to me.
OK, so bottom line is that either can work fine, but you have to spend the money to get the hardware you need.
Really this article is mostly for the PC user who are into photography.
If you are a Mac user, I doubt you are tempted to switch to a PC because you are a photographer.
In fact, you may be a Mac user because you are a photographer, and that is great.
You Mac users may be interested in the end of the article where I provide recommendations on which hardware upgrades are actually worth the money to make sure it can do a good job editing photos.
Now for you PC users. You are probably hearing constantly about doing photo editing on Mac.
You may be seriously tempted to get a Mac just because you hear so much about it from the photography community.
Maybe you are curious about if it really is better than the PC.
You may want to give it a try and determine for yourself, especially if it is time to invest in a new computer, but if things are going fine for you with editing your photos on a PC then my recommendation is to stick with what you know.
Why put a kink in your workflow and go away from what you know?
There, a photographer just gave you permission to use a PC for editing photos.
Instead of switching platforms from PC to Mac, your photography will improve much more by investing in lenses (check out my article recommending a “nifty fifty” lens as the second thing a beginner should buy), other equipment, and training (check out Jim and Darin’s awesome training courses at photoclasses.com).
Whether Mac or PC, I know how seriously frustrating it is to try and edit photos on a computer that doesn’t have enough power.
Maybe you are still using the computer you had before you started into photography, and it isn’t up to the challenge.
If that’s you, it is time to invest in a newer computer.
Read the long answer to go through reasons to pick one over the other, but really neither has a huge advantage and I think it makes the most sense to stick with what you know.
Check out the last two sections of this article for help in the specifications of what you need in a computer (PC or Mac) for a good photo editing experience.
I think it would be easier to discuss religion or politics than to take a side on the Mac vs. PC debate.
It is a debate that seems among photographers to be second only to the Canon vs. Nikon (or Sony, or Panasonic, or any of the other manufacturers).
The discussion is a little easier when you put a photography related slant on it, but it can still be fairly heated.
Still, as the hobbyist editor here at gordigecr.it my job is to take a view on these kinds of things and recommend something based on my own experience as well as what I have learned from other great photographers.
Remember this when you comment on the post, but please do comment.
At some point it is likely to become necessary to get a better computer than what you had when you started into photography.
That machine you bought online for $200 last Christmas is simply not going to work well.
You can make due for some time, and you should for as long as you can.
But when processing a shoot takes twice as long as it should because you are CONSTANTLY waiting for your computer, or the display connected to your computer is not good enough (1080p HD is NOT enough), you will want to do something about it.
At the point when you have decided it is time and the next photography investment you are going to make is a new computer, think of it in the same you think about investing in a new lens and be prepared to spend as much in a lot of cases.
Check out the last part of the article here on recommendations of what the minimum hardware should be in both Mac and PC computers to make editing photos go well.
Why Should You Listen To Me?
Like the other articles I have authored for this website, I am writing this shortly after having gone through exactly this dilemma.
I realized very quickly that even a as a beginning photographer I needed to “post process” my photos on the computer (see my article here about why a beginner needs Adobe Lightroom) in order to make my shots look anything close to those I was seeing online.
Although I consider myself to be a fairly solid hobbyist photographer at this point, I am still relatively new to photography.
However, as an IT professional who has worked on and with computers for more than 20 years, I know computer hardware and software pretty well.
I have built computers, written software for computers, and as of writing this article my full time job is to architect solutions for very large computer systems for a large financial institution.
It is a subject area I have more qualifications to speak to than any other photography subject.
All that said, as I was trying to learn about photography any way I could (podcasts, YouTube, books, etc.) it felt like I was constantly being told that I needed a Mac in order to have photo editing go well.
It seemed like every YouTube video was done on a Mac, ever podcast was about how the new Mac was so awesome, and every photographer I talked to was using a Mac. It was a full on Mac attack, and I am a PC user.
I was editing my photos in Lightroom and had become frustrated that the PC laptop I was running it so … s l o w l y.
The laptop was dated and I knew that even if I wasn’t doing photo editing it was time to upgrade the hardware.
Given all of the hype from the photography community about Mac, I was wondering if I should dump all of my limited hobbyist photography budget on a Mac, or save some $$$ and stick with PC?
Hopefully my story sounds familiar to some of you, especially the beginners out there who are just getting started into photography.
If so, let me take you through a few questions you probably have.
Doesn’t Adobe Software Run Better on Mac?
Mac fanboys are probably going to disagree, but my experience has been that Adobe tools like Photoshop and Lightroom do not necessarily run better on a Mac vs. a PC.
I believe they used to several years ago, although I don’t have personal experience with it from before 2011 to say for sure.
In fact, before Apple switched the architecture of the Mac from PowerPC to Intel in 2006, Adobe had to write their software products very differently for Mac than for PC due to the architecture differences.
So I am pretty sure there really was something to this years ago, I just don’t think there is much to it today.
Like so many other things in life, you get what you pay for in a computer. There is a reason those cheap $200 PCs don’t really work that well for nearly anything.
If a PC has equivalent hardware to a Mac, it will run Adobe software products just as well as a Mac.
Really the biggest difference then is the cost (Mac is more expensive – initially) and personal preference of Windows vs. OSX – which can be extremely important.
If you are using a PC, I think you should stick with what you know best because I don’t think either has a big advantage over the other to run post processing software.
Don’t Macs Have Fewer Problems?
This is an area where I will give a very slight nod to the Mac, agreeing that in general they seem to have fewer issues than PCs.
Again, you get what you pay for, and there is a reason a Mac has more of a “premium” initial price than a PC.
Well, okay, it could be just because Apple can. No, Apple really does put a lot of work into making sure you have a good product in your hands when you fork over that much of your hard earned money.
I am truly convinced this is a real difference between Mac and PC. Unfortunately, it seems Apple is also becoming a victim of their own success and the quality control has gone down as the demand has gone up.
I often hear the argument come up very quickly that PCs are virus magnets whereas Macs are impervious to malware problems.
This is actually a topic very near and dear to my heart, but this isn’t an article on the topic of computer security, so let’s just say that there is more in it for the bad guys to write viruses for Windows.
So yes, you are more likely to have a problem with malware on a PC than on a Mac.
Can a PC work without major problems? Can a PC be kept clean from viruses? Do Macs ever have problems? Yes, yes, and yes.
Is this a reason to pick a Mac over a PC? Maybe. It may make sense if you are, or will be, doing photography professionally to save yourself from also having to be a PC technician by getting a Mac.
Just remember that Macs are still computers, and all computers have technical problems (after all the hardware in the Mac is the same as in some good PCs).
If you aren’t used to a Mac, a PC will be just fine, so long as it isn’t a bargain basement model. I think it makes a lot of sense to stick with what you know.
Aren’t PCs MUCH Less Expensive?
As I have alluded to earlier in the article here, in general PCs are less expensive than Macs – at least initially.
And that word “initially” is the key. The upfront cost of a PC that has almost exactly the same hardware can be as much as 50% less than a Mac.
This is why many PC fanboys will often refer to the “Apple Tax” when you talk about Macs.
But the truth is, unless you build a PC yourself, many of the PC models from the big box vendors like HP and Dell usually end up with some durability problems. They just don’t seem to last very long. Sigh.
The PC business is pretty much as cutthroat as it gets.
The margins have gone down to the point that the manufacturers have to sell a ton of them to make any money.
As they are building them they cut every corner they possibly can. It is worse for laptops than desktops. So you may be able to buy a PC for considerably less money than a Mac, but the Mac may last longer.
Will a Mac last long enough to make the higher initial cost worth it? Maybe. Depends a lot on your use. I think it is very similar to a car.
The same car will last much longer for the old lady driving to church on Sundays vs. a teenager.
To me the costs of a computer, the full costs from beginning to end, depends on how much you know about PCs and computer hardware.
Apple has chosen to make their computers much less upgradeable by anyone but them.
There are some good reasons to do so, but you can’t replace almost anything yourself very easily on many of the most recent models.
PCs on the other hand are much more open. Desktops a lot more so than laptops, but without too much trouble you can replace RAM, a hard drive, video card, and even a processor if you wanted to.
This can help you increase the hardware in your computer a bit more slowly like I did, where I added almost one thing at a time.
Takes some knowledge. Takes some time. But if budget is one of your key concerns you can minimize the up front investment.
If you are a beginner on a tight budget and are willing to be your own tech support then you can potentially save quite a bit of money on a PC and use the rest on photography gear!
But be aware, even though the number may be smaller than the up front cost of a Mac, it still takes a good sized amount of money to build a PC good enough for editing photos.
In the end I don’t think the cost is all that different, at least not 50% less.
Desktop or Laptop?
Another trend I heard constantly from photographers was the use of laptops for photo editing.
Maybe this has to do a lot with the Mac line of computers having a sweet spot with the laptop form factor with their MacBook models.
Maybe there are just a lot more photographers who are constantly on the go and need a more mobile solution.
Whatever the reason, I think this is one you really need to consider carefully.
Desktops are quite simply better for editing photos. Yes, that is a blanket across the board statement.
Mac or PC, a desktop will run your editing software better than a laptop for less money.
MacBooks are very capable of running editing software if you make sure they have some essential upgrades (see the Mac Recommendations section below).
In fact, I think MacBooks are better suited than nearly anything from the PC world in the way of laptops.
That is changing a bit, the “ultrabook” line of PC laptops are finally competing fairly well with MacBooks and some of the stuff shown by PC makers at CES 2015 looks really interesting.
But going back to the cutthroat market of PCs I will bring up again how the vendors cut every corner they possibly can.
I have owned numerous PC laptops over the years and haven’t been truly happy with any of them – especially for photo editing.
As good as a MacBook can be, I still recommend a desktop. Laptop screens are mostly terrible.
The MacBook retina screens are beautiful, but tiny. I have been shocked as I moved from a 24″ full HD (1920×1080) screen to a 30″ WQXGA (25650×1600) IPS screen at just how important this is for editing photos.
There is a reason creative professionals are willing to spend $2,400 on a super high quality Eizo monitor (check out monoprice.com for great monitors for far less money), it really matters.
In general you can get more CPU, more RAM, and more disk with less money in a desktop than a laptop.
Desktops also tend to last longer because heat is an enemy to computers and laptops are in such small packages their heat battle is going to be lost faster.
Think through this one very carefully. If you REALLY need mobility then you have no choice and should use a laptop, but I suspect that for many who claim this to be a requirement their laptop actually rarely leaves their desk and they would have been better off with a desktop.
PC Recommendations (early 2015)
When I was faced this dilemma I knew both the Mac and the PC pretty well, so my own choice actually came down to cost.
I knew how to build and maintain a PC very well, and could get a lot more hardware for the dollars by doing that.
I decided that for me it was better to minimize my investment on computer hardware, end up with a PC better suited for photo editing, and save the rest of the budget for other photography gear.
Even though I had a lot of experience with computers, I didn’t have a lot of experience with photo editing software and understanding what hardware actually makes a difference.
So I did quite a lot of research and was able to do some testing to see specifically what makes a difference.
Unfortunately there are too many PC manufacturers for me to recommend a specific model.
I don’t think in the PC world there is actually all that much difference between them.
Some PC makers do better at customer support than others, although even that seems to change depending on who you ask.
I will say that I doubt any of the PCs you find in a box at the store are going to meet your needs. Go online and customize your order based on the recommendations below.
Here is my advice on what things are worth “upgrading” in a PC to make sure it will run Photoshop and Lightroom well.
Remember, this is very photography focused and is not a recommendation for a gaming or video editing PC (that would start off with maxing out the CPU and have some other differences).
The recommendations are in order of priority to help you decide how to get it configured as you are ordering from a PC maker or if you are brave enough to try a custom build (Be sure to check out the Windows Photo Editing SUPER Guide article for updated recommendations):
You can have things work pretty will with 16GB of RAM, and can get by with 8GB, but this is the first place I would max out a system configuration for a computer and get as much memory as possible.
If you are interested in building your own PC there are plenty of DIY build recommendations and instructions out there to make this very possible.
It sounds really intimidating at first because hardware has such confusing names and not everything can fit together.
Mac Recommendations (early 2015)
You don’t have nearly as many different ways to configure a Mac as you do a PC, really just a few choices.
I thought I would break out my recommendations for Mac differently that I did for PC based on the model choices from least expensive (not cheap) to outrageous
The Mac mini is the entry level machine from Apple really designed for people switching from a PC.
It is a tiny little desktop computer that packs quite a lot of punch into a small space, and will run Photoshop and Lightroom very well.
If after reading this article you think you might like trying a switch from a PC, this would be a really good way to try it out and see how you like the world of Mac.
Here is how I would configure it minimally for photo editing (about $1,000):
The entry level laptop from Apple is very nice as far as a laptop goes.
It gives you probably the ultimate in portability, but you will honestly get more power out of the Mac mini for less money.
Here is how I would configure it minimally for photo editing (about $1,300):
PC manufacturers are catching up (some of them shown at CES 2015 looked pretty nice) but the MacBook Pro is arguably the best laptop money can buy and is awesome for photo editing.
The Mac mini offers roughly the same power here, with 4x more storage, for less money, but here is the minimal configuration I recommend (about $1,800):
You’ll notice that I recommend the Apple Magic Mouse with each one, that’s because the mouse is so good it is worth the money to get one.
I would also recommend that with either of the MacBook models you should also get a monitor to use with them when you are in your office.
Editing photos on those tiny screens, nice as they are (and they are incredible), is not great.
The Apple Thunderbolt Display would be a really good choice, but at $1,000 that pretty much doubles your cost. Yikes.
Apple just revamped the iMac in late 2014, making it one of the most desirable desktop computers for photo editing due to the 5k display.
As of the writing of this article there aren’t really 5k options available for the PC world, and I can confirm that even as a hobbyist a high resolution monitor is a VERY big deal.
Could you save some dollars and consider the previous model iMac? Absolutely.
You will still get a very good display with it, just not 5k. And the iMac has been a good machine very capable of doing photo editing for quite some time.
In fact, at this point I think it is a fair statement across all these Mac models to say that a previous generation model will work pretty well – just look for the RAM.
Here is my minimum recommendation for an iMac, which isn’t the 5k version (Jim reports that the difference seems TINY to him), but isn’t the smallest model either (about $2,200):
Now we enter the world of insanity for many. The Mac Pro is an incredibly powerful machine, but I don’t recommend it for a beginning photographer. It is something more for a power video editor.
Of course you could edit photos on it without the machine breaking a sweat, but it is overkill in my opinion and you are much better served to spend the cash on lenses.
I don’t need to provide a minimum configuration here because anything you order of a Mac Pro is going to rock Photoshop, Lightroom, and Premiere Pro.
The most inexpensive Mac Pro starts at about $3,000, which may seem not too bad when you compare it with the iMac because that is only $800 more.
But there is no monitor that comes with that, so you have to add that on top ($1,000 thunderbolt display).
So you could get an iMac and a MacBook Air for less than a Mac Pro and monitor, which would be better in my opinion.
A PC user doesn’t have to switch to a Mac in order to have a good experience editing photos.
I think it makes a lot of sense for a photographer to stick with what they know.
At some point it may make sense to go to Mac from PC, especially if you are a professional photographer, but it is really a matter of personal preference and neither has a big advantage over the other.
Just make sure you have enough hardware for the job in whichever you choose.
OK, so now let me have it in the comments below 🙂
This is the perfect blog post for me right now. I have a 4 year old toshiba that I am trying to use to edit photos in Lightroom and PS. Can we say frustrated! I am selling my photos online and at art shows now so I really need an upgrade. I live and travel full time in an RV, so a desk top is not an option. Where can I find a laptop with the specs you mentioned? What about the monitor on a laptop? I don’t have piles of $$ to throw at a computer, what would be the best way to go?
Thanks for contributing to the discussion! Totally understand the small budget for a computer. Since you are traveling, I can see the need for a laptop, and recommend something from Asus or Lenovo. Follow the guide for PCs (you can go 16BG of RAM and be fine). Make sure you do not get one with AMD graphics. Most of the laptops have full HD displays now, which is not ideal as I think higher resolutions REALLY help, but I don’t think there are many out there offering higher resolutions than that. If you can find one that says it is IPS that will really help. Just as I stated in the article, I am not really pleased with the durability of PC laptops, they seem to fall apart much sooner than they should. So getting a MacBook Air may be worth looking into for you, although using such a small screen is tough.
Jeff – thank you so much for this article! Like others here, I am a beginning/hobbiest/photography nut, and it’s time for a new computer to fuel my obsession 🙂 Your article has been exactly what I was looking for…and because of it, I have pretty much decided to go with a MacBook Pro. I want to spend my free time taking pictures, not buried in the guts of a PC, and I like the portability of a laptop. My question is, if I plan on using Lightroom &/or Elements, would it be best to just spend the bucks & go for the following specs on a MBP: Mid 2012 (upgradable), 15″, i7, SSD, 8-16 gb, NVIDIA? Or…being a beginner, would the same specs in an i5 suffice, thereby saving me a $$? Please and Thank You!
Save a few $$ and go i5, 8GB RAM, and 256GB SSD
You don’t necessarily get buried in the guts of a PC, though. A modern PC, like a Mac, just…. works, It just works.
I’m an IT professional who is a semi-pro photographer (I take photos for fun, people ask me if they can buy them so I sell them). I use Windows, Linux, and a Mac. I also use Nikon and Canon, both APC and FX. I edit photos and video using both the PC and the Mac.
Less tech support? What about the Genius Bar? You can go just have them help you….with anything….free! (Unless repairs are needed.) Maybe they are not as prevalent around the country. But I haven’t needed support anyway, I needed help all the time when I had a PC. My husband is the only one in the family with a PC and he always want to borrow my Mac, poor thing.
Good luck, I am sure you’ll be getting LOTS of comments.
The nice thing about Macs is there really isn’t much you CAN even do to fix it. You check your permissions, and if that doesn’t fix it… it must be the hardware. That’s one of the nicest things about the Mac.
I’ve used PC and Mac EXTENSIVELY for photo editing, and I can say that my Mac requires less than half the maintenance that a Windows Machine does.
let’s see adobe write software for linux mint/ubuntu. Then you can build more powerful computers cheaply, whilst also having a light OS with plenty of support.
Do you know/recommend a Windows laptop with discrete graphics that isn’t a gaming rig weighing more than 6 lbs.? I’d like to find one as I do travel a lot and I’m trying to avoid excess weight.
Look into Ultrabooks. I got one made by dell at work and it is lightest laptop I have ever seen.
This list of ultrabooks might help. http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2400007,00.asp
Agree that Ultrabooks are getting much better in the PC world, becoming far more compelling as compared with the MacBooks. I personally have still been disappointed with their durability.
Sadly, not really. The higher priced MacBooks are currently doing a lot better here, making the cost worth it. If you really don’t want to go over to Apple land, then I recommend either an Asus or Lenovo laptop. You can check out their ultrabook lines. I think they are currently producing the best built PC laptops. Then follow my guide for PCs in what hardware you customize them to have. Biggest point is to avoid AMD (ATI) graphics in them, Adobe does not support that well on a PC.
Surface Pro 3, that’s what I use and no issue at all.
In general, I agree with your conclusion, although I’m extremely happy with my MacBook Pro for editing, and use it as my only computer.
Yes, the initial cost is higher than a cheap Windows-based laptop, but the performance runs circles around those. There are some very nice, similar equipped laptops that compares well to the MacBook Pro, but the price is also similar.
One thing that used to annoy me terribly (I don’t know if this has been fixed) was the mixture of color managed and non-color managed environment on Windows. Photoshop would use the color profile embedded in a file (e.g. AdobeRGB 1998) while Windows preview would not, making the visual representation of the same file differ quite a lot. The Mac OS X is color managed though and through, and always use the color profile embedded in your file.
Another thing to consider is the fact, that for some reason, Windows do tend to get slower over time and require a re-installation every couple of years. My previous MacBook Pro from 2006 ran for 7 years without a single re-install, and was upgraded to a new version of Mac OS X whenever it came out. I never experienced performance degradation in the OS – and if anything, some versions (e.g. Snow Leopard) actually made it feel snappier.
However, with careful usage and by using your head before clicking on everything presented to you, a Windows PC is very capable and does give you some more freedom with respect to upgrades and customization than a Mac, that is for sure.
Thanks for the feedback! Mixed color management remains a problem even in the latest Windows 8.1. Totally agree with you there, hate having my mouse cursor and the photos app a completely different brightness and color. At least it works where it counts in Lr and Ps, otherwise that would be a complete killer for doing anything on the PC.
THANK YOU!!!!! I have been torn on this for almost a year now!!!! I finally have avenues that I can look into! You seriously have just told me exactly whT I have longing to hear!
This article was almost timely. Just went from a PC to a Mac last week. My bargain PC was just not keeping up. It kept crashing all the time. What total frustration. Now I am learning a new system. There are a few changes that I have not figured out yet. A new kind of fristration that I trust will not last long. :). Google is my best friend right now. Good to read by this article that we did not make a huge mistake. Thanks.
I LOVE IT!!! This post is great, and I’m sure it is perfect for those wanting an upgrade to Mac. However, this doesn’t reeeeaaaalllly define the differences between Mac and PC. I have a Macbook Pro, and it’s a beautiful computer, but, believe it or not, I’m debating on switching to PC, just for the upgradeability. My laptop is somewhat slow, with only 8 GB RAM, and Apple is annoying enough to not let us upgrade ram on laptops. Something worth mentioning, you can upgrade RAM on iMacs. Again, love the post. Thanks a bunch!
Thanks for the feedback, glad you liked the article. Hope you will continue to contribute to our great gordigecr.it community. It is great that you could upgrade the RAM on the iMac before the 2013 model. However, Apple switched to soldering the chips to the machine that year and beyond, any attempt to do it yourself now voids the warranty. Sadface.
I totally agree with most of this, but I’ve put years of study into this, and written some books on optimizing Windows performance, and I might be able to save you a few bucks…
* RAM. If you’re spending most of your time in Lightroom, you’re fine with just 4GB of RAM. It rarely uses more. For photography, most Photoshop users won’t benefit from more than 8GB. 32GB can be useful for video editing, but even for that, the benefits above 16GB diminish quickly.
* Video card. Lightroom makes no use of the GPU, and very few Photoshop filters do. Save some money and get a relatively cheap video adapter (that can still drive your huge monitors). If you get into video editing or gaming, the GPU is VERY important, but for photography, your money is better spent elsewhere.
Had to get that off my chest, but great article! Very helpful!
Oh, and I’d rather have two smaller monitors than one bigger monitor, esp. for Lightroom… so split that monitor budget in half and buy two.
Thanks for contributing Tony, great to have you part of the community here. I was very tempted to put RAM as a second priority to SSD in my list for the reasons you have stated here, although I wouldn’t really want to try running a PC on 4GB of RAM. I do have to disagree with you on the monitor. I would opt for a single 30″ 2560×1600 monitor over two 1080p (1920×1080) monitors. The high resolution really helps me to see the detail of the photo better. It made a much bigger difference to me than I expected. Sure appreciate your involvement though, please keep it up!
When I usually hear people complain about “My pc was soooo slow compared to when I switched to Mac” they really tend to ignore the price and time difference. You bought your PC for $600? 3 Years ago? Of course the Mac is going to work better because it’s a) newer, and b) you probably spent double the money on it.
If you know a lot about computers the choice is obvious, you get much better bang for your buck with PC. If your highly tech-illiterate, you might have an easier time with a Mac. That’s my two-cents 🙂
I am surprised how no one else realizes this. Also I have always been a PC user. Whatever problems I have had with PC were because of my meddling/installing all crap. When used it in a professional way i.e. only installing what is needed and avoiding all unnecessary stuff, PCs don’t really give any trouble.
People who say their PC used to crash all the time, I don’t know what was wrong with their machines, I have been using windows since Windows XP and I never really had any problems.
Thanks for the feedback. Yes, I hope that point came through in the article. If you know a little about computers then you can save as much as 50% to get almost the same build as it would take for a Mac. The problem is that there really aren’t that many who know enough to do that, or want to do that.
I have had my HP Intel Core 17 PC for 11 years, and it has done well. I’m just beginning to think I’d better look into a new PC.
You do have to pay for some additional stuff that comes bundled with windows, such as iSCSI initiators (if you want to mount a NAS drive through iSCSI) and NTFS file system support if you work in a mixed environment, but I’ve used both platforms extensively for photo editing & certainly prefer a Mac, although that’s more from a UI and underlying OS perspective, rather than specific capabilities… But that’s just my personal preference.
I think that this is a great article. I currently have a PC with an AMD 10 processor. I have been debating for years to get a Mac but didn’t want to spend the money. Well I am now taking college classes for photography and use an iMac all the time and have fallen more in love with it the more I use it. I want to get an iMac before the semester is over so I can use it as a school tax right off. I want to get the 5k screen but what are my minimum features that I should get or even the way I should custom build it for photography editing as well as video editing as I work with a photographer and we make videos for houses going on the market. I want to get the best machine for my dollar and don’t really have a budget as I want something that I don’t have to buy another one for years. I appreciate any and all help that you might be able to give me. Again great article.
Thanks for the feedback! I have heard some early reviews that the 5K screen isn’t nearly as big an impact as was going from 1080p to 2K (the older version of the iMac). My advice right now would be to go for the 27″ 2K iMac at this point, save you some $$$. If you want to do video editing then make sure you max out the CPU. It will raise the cost considerably, but video editing is still primarily a CPU function. If you know a little about what you are doing with a PC, you can get a lot more hardware for the money to do video editing over what it will cost to get the same with a Mac. You can build a really good video editing computer for about $1,000. Follow the link in the article to videoguys.com for a DIY recommendation there. If you are a little nervous about that, max out the iMac and you will be pretty happy with it for several years.
I used PC (windows) machines from 1990-2010. Switched to Mac. The system is night and day better. And even their stock preview software can preview raw files without an external editor when you want to look at something quick. Not even a contest here. Great article but save yourself time – get and iMac with 5k display!! Simply great and a severe bargain at that price when you compare it to other displays like it. Dell has a 5k for $2000!! You get a powerful computer with it for $500-$1000 more. Lol
Excellent and in my case timely article, thank you. I have a small question: I notice you recommend 32 GB of RAM for the PC but only 16 GB for the iMac 27″. However, you can have 32 GB installed on the iMac, if you’re willing to pay 400$ over the 16GB. So is it ok to stick to 16 GB on the iMac, in your opinion? Thanks !
The Mac recommendations are a little different style than PC. If going up to 32GB RAM in the iMac is in the budget then do it. The reason the recommendation is at 32GB for the PC is that the cost is not much more to do it. In fact, pretty trivial to order a smaller amount of RAM with the computer and then upgrade it yourself for a very small cost. The point of the 16GB recommendation for the iMac in the article was that things will work pretty well at 16. With the 2013 version of the iMac, upgrading the RAM yourself is not so easy (Apple says you can’t do it without breaking warranty), so just remember that whatever you order you are stuck with unless you take it in to Apple for an upgrade.
Yes, it’s true. If you know what you are doing with it you can get a lot more hardware for far less money. Great to have that option isn’t it?
Those 6 Ghz chips that TurboBoost down to 3.1 Ghz are something new that Apple is trying out?
I think that the 6 GHz was referring to overclocking capabilities, especially if you liquid cool the CPU. Obviously the kind of thing only a custom PC builder can do that takes some know how.
Very nice article! I spent several years editing with PC laptops and desktops and agree that the desktop is a much nicer way to go for ease of use and expandability. 3 years ago, I moved over to the Mac and haven’t looked back. In my experience, the biggest benefit for me is no longer having to be a “PC expert” since the Mac continues to be completely and truly “plug and play” for me. This allows me to spend more time focused on photography and computer maintenance.
I’m a PC guy as well as a beginner photographer, and I recently had to purchase a new desktop, of course it had to be custom built. I am also a PC tech, which allows me to save on maintenance and upkeep of my PC. Here is my breakdown:
Corsair 750W Modular.
Corsair C60 water cool.
NVIDIA GTX 760 2Gb.
Dual Dell 22″ P2214H IPS.
In all I spent about $1,200 far less than a Mac, and better hardware than your average off the shelf Mac. I must say I love it and have yet experienced any issues or anything I can’t fix!
Um, just gonna say. this was just a big ad for Mac really. you weighed the sides very little in many cases but just saying “initially” on the price point is pure and simply false. Every PC has a function and purpose. If i got a laptop/desktop on par with a mac it would be just as fast/faster and just as durable/more durable than a mac. It is about comfort, and use. Gaming PC hands down. The rest is just comfort and price range. Each have their niche.
Thanks for contributing to the gordigecr.it community! Many people have felt the article to be supporting the PC too much, making them feel the need to defend their Mac. I know it would be a controversial topic and overall my point was that photographers shouldn’t feel ashamed or lesser because they use a PC. I am a proud PC user. Love my custom built, liquid cooled system that purs along as I edit photos and video.
My point about a smaller initial investment applies to the majority of photographers out there who are not trained enough to act as technical support for their computer. PC desktops can last as long as a Mac, but my experience with PC laptops has been dreadful. They just haven’t held up for me, which is understandable with how tight the market is and how little margin the PC manufacturers are making from them. So, over time, if a person doesn’t have the skills to do their own tech support, or the skills to upgrade the computer component by component, they may be buying another PC (especially a laptop) faster than they would a Mac. Maybe. That is exactly how I put it in the article, maybe.
Completely agree that PC owns the gaming world. Also agree it is about comfort, which is why I recommended sticking with what you know. If that is PC, where you are comfortable and productive, no reason to switch to Mac because you are a photographer. But that are many who aren’t happy or truly comfortable with their PC and investing in a Mac may allow them to focus more on photography (and getting through their edits) rather than worrying about their computer.
I’m a PC to Mac convert, But not 100%, but I personally wouldn’t go back. My son talked me into getting an iMac in Sept-Oct 2012. I have a 22″ (but not wish I had purchased the larger screen), with the fusion drive. For those not familiar with this, it’s the best of both worlds, with the solid state SSD and the 7,200 RMP drive, that Jeff talks about. GREAT article Jeff! I run “Parellels” so I can still run the MS Office programs, plus others that I’ve used for years and know inside out. Like Jeff I started building my own PCs in the DOS days and loved it! I still have a Lenovo Laptop withe an i5 Intel vPro 64 bit processor and a fair amount of RAM for the laptop, when new. Here are some of the Pros I saw in the change: Laptop Vs iMac, No comparison for photo edits and my next one will likely be Apple. My iMac boots up and I’m in Lightroom in 15-20 seconds and I can’t see this happening with a PC (Slow boot to LR drives me crazy on the laptop, up to 3 min.) Both have only 8Gb of RAM, but the laptop is always putting up messages stating available RAM is low? Problems with the computer slowing down with ti iMac is non existent. All the PCs I’ve had before starting slowing down the day I built or purchased them, until the day I retired them. This iMac is as fast is it was the day I opened the box two years ago! I utilized clean up programs, but all were temporary. Like Jeff says, programs are memory hogs and the largest hogs are antivirus programs! All seem to slow your computer down, but you can’t be without them. Maybe I’m just lucky with internet configuration, etc., but other than the IOSX and provider safeguards my iMac doesn’t antivirus or malware programs installed. With the new Windows 8 and beyond becoming more intuitive there’s hope, but I find IOSX much more intuitive, like the pinch to zoom. The only LR edit comparisons I can make are the PC laptop Vs my iMac (and the iMac utilizes the fusion drive) but loading pics to edit, saving them or using various plug-ins, I see a difference that swings me toward Apple. Photo library back up and transfer, Apple’s Thunderbolt has it hands down over USB 3.0, absolutely no comparison and this is no small potatoes for a photographer with thousands of pictures.
Long story short, at this time my next purchase will be another Apple product for photography. Again, Great article Jeff!
Just want to make one comment. Dale says he is in LR in 15-20 seconds. I am going to assume this from the end of boot, or from sleep (because from truly powered down is impossible for anything). If it takes me 15 seconds to go from sleep to LR open in 15 seconds, it it because I am distracted. Desktop wakes from sleep in about 3 seconds, LR opens in about the same.
Regardless of Apple or PC, one of the main things to avoid when purchasing an entry level computer (Apple or PC) is integrated graphics processing i.e. Intel HD3000, HD4000, HD5000. For those who aren’t familiar, that means the chip that powers graphics processing is integrated with the regular processing rather than having a separate chip that is solely dedicated to graphics processing.
The affordability of PC allows this type of advantage in laptops under $1000, however, in Apple laptops, that type of feature isn’t available for less than $2500. Many of the readers of this article who dont have thousands of dollars to spend may benefit from that information.
Good comment and point. Entry level, off the store (big box) shelf is not going to be the best for photo editing. Mac or Windows.
This sounds like sound advice Andreas. However, I have read many articles which state that a dedicated graphics card is not required for Lightroom. I have had crashing problems in Lightroom and turned the GPU off and all was ok. Of course a graphics card is required for gaming but is it necessary for editing photos?
I’m really struggling with maintaining my pc and thinking the Apple platform may be the best option for me.
I tried to post a comment earlier and I am not sure where it went to but I will attempt to post again. I really loved this article it was very informative. I was just wondering what you would recommend for the minimum features for a iMac 5K. I am currently a PC user but have been going back and forth to switching and now that I have been using the iMac at my school it has really sold me to make the switch. I am a beginner Photographer and I also do some videos for a realtor with a photographer I have been working with. I would appreciate any suggestions that you might have. Thank you again great article.
So glad you enjoyed the article. Thanks for the feedback! To answer you question, I don’t recommend the 5k iMac right now. Jim got one this past Christmas and his early feedback is that the difference between it and the previous 27″ model is TINY bit of difference. If you can afford a fully maxed out 5k iMac, awesome. If you have a budget to watch out for, then spend the $$$ on the RAM, CPU, and fusion drive rather than the higher resolution screen. The CPU will really make a big difference for video processing, so maxing that out would make more sense than getting the 5k resolution.
Ok thank you very much that is very helpful. I have been going back and forth and trying to decide exactly what to get and you have really made it a lot easier. 🙂